Arcadi Oliveres: Yes, (Capitalism should be destroyed) it has to be done and it is urgent because it is a perverse system that kills lives...
..Yes, utopias must be pursued.
by SĂlvia Marimon at .ara.cat .. shared with thanks .. translation thefreeonline Monday.February 8, 2021

Arcadi Oliveras portrayed at home. foto..CRISTINA CALDERER
On Thursday last week Arcadi was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer with not much time left and, since then, people keep coming to his house. Gone are the nights in the hospital, where he could not receive visits.
Sant Cugat
Arcadi Oliveres (Barcelona, ââ1945) is spending his last days in the summer house that his grandfather built in Sant Cugat, Barcelona, where he has lived for fifteen years.
When we sit down to talk he shows us the drawings of two of his grandchildren. One has drawn the house and the other his grandfather about to speak in public.
Over the years, Oliveres has given thousands of talks on democracy, refugees, capitalism, a culture of peace, climate change, disarmament, responsible consumption âŠ
âThese days are happy days, I feel very loved,â he says. He is always surrounded by his wife, Janine.
Former president of Justice and Peace, president of the International University Foundation for Peace and a member of the Catalan Economic Society, Oliveres has given voice and participated in many social movements. He has received awards such as the Gold Medal for Cultural Merit. He has written his political ideas in several books by Angle Editorial. The latest was released this week: âWords of Arcadi. What we have learned from the world and how we can actâ.
When he retired as a professor of applied economics at the Autonomous Barcelona University (UAB), he estimated that 17,000 students had passed through his classes. He was never a conventional teacher. Among other things, he taught students how to file an income tax return avoiding paying the 6% that is spent on Defense. This week, many people have left messages on the website that the family has opened, so that everyone who wants to can say goodbye.

When someone asks him to look back, he says he just read a lot, digested it well, and explained it. That he has had a life full of privileges. He goes on to argue that utopias are necessary, that the world needs to change, and that doing so is not only possible, but also necessary and urgent. He only regrets that perhaps the last utopia will not be possible: to meet his granddaughter, Aila, who will be born in May.
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You continue to have a very busy schedule, receiving people these days.
- Receiving no, loving. Iâm lucky that people know and love me. This morning I was telling Janine: these are my last days but they are happy. Iâve had moments of everything in life, some happy and some not so happy, like when my son, Marcel, died. But apart from that loss, I consider myself lucky, I canât complain. The doctor told me I had between two days and two months left. And I have to take advantage of them. I am enjoying all the conversations.
Your latest book begins with a conversation with your grandchildren. They say you always talk a lot and often tell them that the world is very upset.

- Yes, that was the idea of ââthe Sea [Mar Valldeoriola, the publisher with whom he made the book]. Pol and Marc spend some weekends here. Marc, who is the big one, is a very early riser in the morning and when he gets up he reads the newspaper from head to toe. And then we talk about it. Reading the newspaper must be inherited from his grandfather.
In many of your books, there is a phrase you often repeat: you say that utopias must be pursued.
- Yes, utopias must be pursued. Iâve been introduced to them throughout my life. I took part in struggles during the Franco regime, then during the Transition, in democracy with the 15-M âŠ
- I was able to live a thousand adventures, not political, but social. I have never wanted to be part of institutional politics, I have never had a political party card. I have done political life on the periphery. In part, family and school have been instrumental.

Arcadi Oliveras taks in Pineda about military spending ..parla a Pineda de la despesa miliâŠ
- My father was a pacifist and a radical Catalanist. And my mother was a militant of the neighborhood associations. I was also lucky enough to study at the Escolapios, which may now look like a busy school but when I went there it wasnât. Among other teachers I had LluĂs Maria Xirinacs. In 1959 I received Marxism and class struggle classes. Iâve always been very lucky.
- Xirinacs, the forerunner of peaceful disobedience
As I said before, you have always worked from the other side of politics, never from one political party.
- Yes, it is the path I have chosen. I donât like the life of political parties, elections, party pacts âŠ
You often talk about freedom, a complex concept. Sometimes, we are not even aware that we are not free. You have chosen your own path.
- I have two sisters and two brothers. And the sisters always tell me that in life I have always done what I wanted and that no one has ever forced me to do anything. I am the eldest of five brothers and my father died young. I had to take care of the family. And that gave me absolute freedom.

What has this life brought you, freedom?
- Free, free, no one is 100% and less in todayâs world, but Iâve been able to do what I love. Since I have never followed any militancy or had ties to political parties or religious groups, I have never been censored. No one has ever told me âyou shouldnât say thatâ or âyou shouldnât do that.â
You never âbit your tongueâ. You argue that capitalism must be destroyed, that the monarchy is a rotten apple that should never have existed, encourage civil disobedience, say that we live in a democracy that is more apparent than real âŠ
- I always said what I wanted. More than twenty years ago we campaigned against external debt. We held a referendum and the Electoral Board said it was an illegal referendum. The secretary of the Spanish Episcopal Conference, Monsignor Juan José Asenjo, called me. He forbade me to participate as President of Justice and Peace. I ignored him.
- Iâve had some legal issues with the tax objection, but Iâve just been fined. During the Franco regime, of course, I was also arrested on one occasion and the Court of Public Order tried me in 1968 for organizing an illegal demonstration, but I was acquitted.

I remember you once explained that every September 26th you slept badly. It was the night Txiki was shot.
- Yes, those of us who were part of the campaign against the death penalty met at the headquarters of Justice and Peace. We stayed there until three in the morning. We even called the Vatican, on one last attempt. The next morning we met with the lawyers, Marc PalmĂ©s and Magda Oranich. They arrived with their faces dislocated and a few bullets in their hands. On the day of the funeral the police charged against everyone. Since that night, Iâve slept badly every September 26th. ⊠The bullets of the last person shot in Catalonia by the Franco regime
You have participated in many social movements. One of the last was on 15-M movement. Do you think it is still alive?
- Not as a movement but in the goals. Then came what they called tides (mass movements). The tides of pensioners, educational, solidarity. The campaigns continue.
Do you still think that capitalism should be destroyed and that this is possible?
- Yes, it has to be done and it is urgent because it is a perverse system that kills lives. We need to change our attitude every day. As consumers we can produce change.
For many years you were a university professor. Is it not uncommon for university professors to be involved in social struggles?.
- There have always been teachers who have participated in social struggles but it is a minority struggle. During the dictatorship, those who made the revolution or intended to make it were 10%. And now I think itâs the same. For example, the Bologna Education Plan was launched ten years ago. If we were a hundred teachers, only three protested against it.
- I guess a lot of interests are mixed in, but I didnât become a teacher or study economics to make those who are already richer, but to lift the poor out of poverty. The university should be an engine of change, an institution paid for with public money cannot repeat such an unjust socio-economic system. The university should be critical, transformative.
Source: https://www.ara.cat/cultura/arcadi-âŠ
Original en Catalan
Arcadi Oliveres: âSĂłn els meus Ășltims dies perĂČ sĂłn feliçosâ
Lunes.8 de febrero de 2021
SĂlvia Marimon
Sant Cugat
Arcadi Oliveres (Barcelona, 1945) passa els Ășltims dies a la casa dâestiueig que el seu avi va construir a Sant Cugat, on viu des de fa quinze anys. Quan seiem a parlar ens mostra els dibuixos de dos dels seus nets. Lâun ha dibuixat la casa i lâaltre el seu avi a punt de parlar en pĂșblic. I Ă©s que Oliveres al llarg dels anys ha fet milers de xerrades sobre democrĂ cia, refugiats, capitalisme, cultura de la pau, canvi climĂ tic, desarmament, consum responsable⊠Dijous de la setmana passada li van diagnosticar un cĂ ncer de pĂ ncrees que no li donarĂ gaire temps de descompte i, des dâaleshores, per casa seva no hi para de passar gent. Enrere han quedat les nits a lâhospital, on no podia rebre visites. âAquests dies sĂłn dies feliços, em sento molt estimatâ, diu. A prop sempre hi tĂ© la seva dona, la Janine.
Expresident de JustĂcia i Pau, president de la FundaciĂł UniversitĂ ria Internacional de la Pau i membre de la Societat Catalana dâEconomia, Oliveres ha donat veu i ha participat en molts moviments socials. Ha rebut premis com la Medalla dâOr al MĂšrit Cultural. Ha deixat escrites les seves idees polĂtiques en uns quants llibres dâAngle Editorial. LâĂșltim, justament sâha publicat aquesta setmana: Paraules dâArcadi.
QuĂš hem aprĂšs del mĂłn i com podem actuar. Quan es va jubilar com a professor dâeconomia aplicada a la UAB, va calcular que per les seves classes hi havien passat 17.000 alumnes. No va ser mai un professor convencional. Entre altres coses, ensenyava als estudiants a fer la declaraciĂł de la renda evitant pagar el 6% que es dedica a Defensa. Aquesta setmana sĂłn molts els que li han deixat missatges a la web que ha obert la famĂlia perquĂš tothom qui vulgui seân pugui acomiadar.

Quan algĂș li demana mirar enrere, diu que simplement sâha limitat a llegir molt, digerir-ho bĂ© i explicar-ho. Que ha tingut una vida plena de privilegis. Continua defensant que les utopies sĂłn necessĂ ries, que el mĂłn sâha de canviar i que fer-ho no Ă©s nomĂ©s possible, sinĂł tambĂ© necessari i urgent. Tan sols lamenta que potser lâĂșltima utopia no serĂ possible: conĂšixer la seva neta, lâAila, que naixerĂ al maig.
Continua tenint lâagenda molt plena, aquests dies va rebent gent.
â Rebent no, estimant. Tinc la sort que la gent em coneix i mâestima. Aquest matĂ li deia a la Janine: sĂłn els meus Ășltims dies perĂČ sĂłn feliços. A la vida he tingut moments de tot, alguns de feliços i dâaltres no tant, com quan es va morir el meu fill, el Marcel. PerĂČ a part dâaquesta pĂšrdua, em considero un afortunat, no em puc queixar. El metge em va dir que em quedaven entre dos dies i dos mesos. I els he dâaprofitar. Estic gaudint de totes les converses.
El seu Ășltim llibre comença amb una conversa amb els seus nets. Diuen que sempre parla molt i els explica sovint que el mĂłn estĂ molt revoltat.
â SĂ, aixĂČ va ser idea de la Mar [Mar Valldeoriola, lâeditora amb qui ha fet el llibre]. El Pol i el Marc passen aquĂ alguns caps de setmana. El Marc, que Ă©s el gran, Ă©s molt matiner i quan es lleva llegeix el diari de cap a peus. I desprĂ©s en parlem. AixĂČ de llegir el diari sĂ que deu ser herĂšncia de lâavi.

En molts dels seus llibres hi ha una frase que repeteix sovint: diu que sâhan de perseguir les utopies.
SĂ, sâhan de perseguir les utopies. A mi se mâhan anat presentant al llarg de la vida. Vaig participar en lluites durant el franquisme, desprĂ©s durant la TransiciĂł, en democrĂ cia amb el 15-M⊠He pogut viure mil aventures, no polĂtiques, sinĂł socials. Mai he volgut formar part de la polĂtica institucional, no he tingut mai cap carnet de partit polĂtic.
He fet vida polĂtica a la perifĂšria. En part, han estat determinants la famĂlia i lâescola. El meu pare era un pacifista i un catalanista radical. I la mare era una militant de les associacions de veĂŻns. Vaig tenir, a mĂ©s, la sort dâestudiar als Escolapis, que ara pot semblar una escola carca perĂČ quan jo vaig anar-hi no ho era. Entre altres professors vaig tenir LluĂs Maria Xirinacs. El 1959 vaig rebre classes de marxisme i de lluita de classes. He tingut sempre molta sort.
Xirinacs, el precursor de la desobediĂšncia pacĂfica
Com deia abans, sempre ha treballat des de lâaltra polĂtica, mai des dâun partit polĂtic.
â SĂ, Ă©s el camĂ que he triat. No mâagrada la vida dels partits polĂtics, de les eleccions, dels pactes de partitsâŠ
Parla sovint de la llibertat, un concepte complex. A vegades, ni tan sols som conscients que no som lliures. VostĂš ha triat el seu propi camĂ.
â Tinc dues germanes i dos germans. I les germanes sempre em diuen que a la vida he fet sempre el que he volgut i que mai ningĂș mâha obligat a res. Soc el mĂ©s gran dels cinc germans i el meu pare va morir jove. Em vaig haver de fer cĂ rrec de la famĂlia. I aixĂČ em va donar una absoluta llibertat.
QuĂš li ha aportat aquesta llibertat?
â Lliure, lliure, no ho Ă©s ningĂș al 100% i menys en aquest mĂłn actual, perĂČ he pogut fer el que mâagrada. Com que no he seguit mai cap militĂ ncia ni he tingut vincles amb partits polĂtics ni amb grups religiosos, mai he estat censurat. Mai ningĂș mâha dit âaixĂČ no ho ha de dirâ o âaixĂČ no ho has de ferâ.
No sâha mossegat mai la llengua. Defensa que el capitalisme sâha de destruir, afirma que la monarquia Ă©s una poma podrida que no hauria dâhaver existit mai, anima a la desobediĂšncia civil, diu que vivim una democrĂ cia mĂ©s aparent que realâŠ

â Sempre he dit el que he volgut. Fa mĂ©s de vint anys vam fer una campanya contra el deute extern. Vam fer un referĂšndum i la Junta Electoral va dir que era un referĂšndum il·legal. Em va trucar el secretari de la ConferĂšncia Episcopal Espanyola, monsenyor Juan JosĂ© Asenjo. Em va prohibir que hi participĂ©s com a president de JustĂcia i Pau. No li vaig fer cas.
He tingut alguns problemes jurĂdics per lâobjecciĂł fiscal, perĂČ han estat multes. Durant el franquisme, esclar, tambĂ© em van detenir en alguna ocasiĂł i el Tribunal de Orden PĂșblico em va jutjar lâany 1968 per haver organitzat una manifestaciĂł il·legal, perĂČ em van absoldre.
Recordo que una vegada va explicar que cada 26 de setembre dormia malament. Va ser la nit que van afusellar Txiki.
â SĂ, els que formĂ vem part de la campanya contra la pena de mort ens vam reunir a la seu de JustĂcia i Pau. Ens hi vam estar fins a les tres de la nit. Fins i tot vam trucar al VaticĂ , en un Ășltim intent. LâendemĂ al matĂ ens vam trobar amb els seus advocats, el Marc PalmĂ©s i la Magda Oranich. Van arribar amb la cara desencaixada i unes quantes bales a la mĂ . El dia del funeral la policia va carregar contra tothom. Des dâaquella nit, cada 26 de setembre he dormit malament.
Les bales de lâĂșltim afusellat a Catalunya pel franquisme
Ha participat en molts moviments socials. Un dels Ășltims va ser el 15-M. Creu que continua viu?
â No com a moviment perĂČ sĂ en els objectius. DesprĂ©s han vingut allĂČ que han anomenat marees. Les marees dels pensionistes, educatives, solidĂ ries. Les reivindicacions continuen.
Continua pensant que el capitalisme sâha de destruir i que aixĂČ Ă©s possible?
â SĂ, sâha de fer i Ă©s urgent perquĂš Ă©s un sistema pervers que mata vides. Cal anar canviant lâactitud cada dia. Com a consumidors podem produir canvis.

Durant molts anys va ser professor universitari. No és gaire habitual que els professors universitaris participin en les lluites socials.
â Sempre hi ha hagut professors que han participat en les lluites socials perĂČ Ă©s una lluita minoritĂ ria. Durant la dictadura, qui feia la revoluciĂł o pretenia fer-la era un 10%. I ara crec que Ă©s igual. Per exemple, ara fa deu anys es va posar en marxa el pla Bolonya.
Si Ă©rem cent professors, nomĂ©s tres ens hi vam manifestar en contra. Suposo que sâhi barregen molts interessos perĂČ no em vaig fer professor ni vaig estudiar econĂČmiques per fer mĂ©s rics els que ja ho sĂłn, sinĂł per treure de la pobresa els mĂ©s pobres. La universitat hauria de ser un motor de canvi, una instituciĂł pagada amb diners pĂșblics no pot repetir un sistema socioeconĂČmic tan injust. La universitat hauria de ser crĂtica, transformadora.
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