Join Mia’a Williams and Helen Charman to discuss Mia’s latest book This is How We Survive: Revolutionary Mothering, War, and Exile in the 21st Century (available from PM Press, or you favourite indie bookstore – https://pmpress.org.uk/product/this-i… ). This is a story about mothers who are doing the work of deep social transformation by creating the networks of care that sustain movements and revolutions. Helen Charman is a writer and academic based in Glasgow. Her first book, Mother State—a political history of motherhood—is forthcoming from Allen Lane. Her poetry pamphlet Daddy Poem was shortlisted for the 2019 Ivan Juritz Prize; her latest, In the Pleasure Dairy, was published by Sad Press in 2020. She teaches English Literature at Durham University, and is an associate member of staff at Camberwell College of Arts and the Glasgow School of Art. She is resident commissioning editor at MAP magazine. Mai’a Williams is a writer and artist, residing in Minneapolis and rural Minnesota. It was their living and working with Egyptian, Palestinian, Congolese, and Central American indigenous mothers in resistance communities, that inspired their life-giving work and art-making practices. They are currently co-creating healing and mutual aid networks in Minneapolis in the midst of a pandemic and a movement for abolition. They are the co-editor of the anthology, Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Lines and the author of the memoir, This is How We Survive: Revolutionary Mothering, War, and Exile in the 21st Century.